Silverpine

Flipping through the comments I assume the answer is 'no', but is there any means to add a more permanent footnote in the games memory? For example, Mirel enjoys teasing others as a couple with my MC, but later on she forgets, or can do almost a 180 of being shy and insecure, which while cute, can be a little jarring and confusing. The serpent sisters have taken to calling my MC 'little sister' in one playthrough, as I've been bonding with them, and I'd rather like to keep that element running if possible. It's cute. Especially from Oriana, who is... a lot to get used to before she eventually warms up to you. Oof. 

Another story beat was Gareth going from friend to alpha predator, which my MC resisted as they were getting intimate. The game wrote the story well, which was a nice discovery that it could write a convincing conflict with emotions running high and mistakes being made, but of course the game is quick to forget such things, which is a shame because it has wonderful potential to be a moment of character growth,  haha.

Or adding a story beat of a character wearing something you've crafted, forged or found as a token of your friendship/affections. Basically adding a strong footnote to a NPC that doesn't get wiped out as easily. 

Also, on slightly more lewd ground with intimacy, is there any way to guide the AI, gently or otherwise, to remember that an intersex has *both* attributes? Even with the custom character description of a feminine hourglass body type with all the trimmings and such the game tends to focus immediately on the male bits and forgets other half... and of course all the rest of those soft and lovely curves.  

Thanks for reading, and thank for making the game. I've been recommending it to me friends. Best 8 bucks I've spent in months. 

Is there a community discord for this game?
And will it be possible to have children with NPCs in the future? This might be a strange question, but it would be great to be able to start a family with your favorite NPC, like in Stardew Valley :DD

Been playing around with the game and really having fun. characters refusing stuff for logical reasons is refreshing for AI and not sure if it was coded in but shopkeeper lowered the price he was buying my oozes due to large volume and  low demand.  A little tip for making money to other early game is to sell lavender from mountains to the baths, got offer of 10g per bundle right off the start. rumours spreading about me has been really neat, sell lavender late at night > why are you visiting bathmaid at odd hours? and guard heard i limped into town after nearly dying from other characters and offered bodyguard services

couple of gripes about the AI (local nemo) it didn't happen at the start but steadily it has become more common for AI to roleplay my character in their "dialogue" causing frustration as it makes me say stuff i wouldn't. mainly problem with Gareth, maybe because I talked with him the most and I'm dating him (full heart bar)

Other one is less of a problem, more of a curiosity, i cannot find way to see what the context characters use when talking with them, it would be neat to peek under the hood and see what is happening

had few fun conversations about this game with friends about excellent usage of AI and fantasizing about "stardew valley: ai edition" in future. also thanks for making this furry/scalie game with good mix of genders and races. saw your post about adding characters so i won't ask for it but male scalie would have been neat.

Hello, I uhhh... Have another suggestion. Real quick.

You should TOTALLY add to Aldics lore that he would definitely 100% never ever, ever, accept pre-payment. I noticed, from what I can tell, that you cant in one prompt cycle tell an NPC to give you something. In order for the player to receive an item it has to be "queued" two or more cycles deep. You can however ask for an item and receive it in one cycle if its somehow relevant to the current scenario. With that in mind if you ask Aldric if the order of {quantity}[item] that you prepaid/(already paid for) arrived today he will, without fail, hand it to you.

I understand fixing this root issue is nye impossible but again I might suggest adding something somewhere in the LLM feed for logging that he never accepts prepayment and/or is wary people claiming fraudulent orders. I know you can finesse this issue on any NPC but the reason i bring it up for Aldric is that its a 'plausible' action and is thus extremely easy to use and abuse, especially because as a merchant its 'plausible' that you could really order anything from him.

Has a custom appearance prompt ever been considered for the character customization screen? For example, you could write that your character has a scar/lithe body/shorter than usual stature, and the AI could remember that for future interactions. It'd be a fun way to keep NPC reactions fresh on new saves.

I seemed to have bugged furniture? I can't seem to pick up my plant and clock as they don't turn green anymore when I use "Pick Up Furniture". It's only these two, everything else in the house is pick-up-able.

The difference between the NEMO and Gemma-2-large model is actually interesting, Nemo seemed to focus on the conversations while Gemma includes all these small actions as well.

My main problem with the large Gemma one is that it randomly will format its texts to seperate actions from speaking, and then stop doing it a sentence later.

It also picked up a habit of asking what I want to do at the end of every characters prompt. It also has a problem on occasion with going beyond I believe the limit from the console is like 256 words? So it just cuts off mid sentence leaving me with an npc doing something like "Oh, please go and" and Im not sure if I can do anything to let them finish speaking what it was attempting to.

Beyond the issues its actually amazing just how much time one can spend doing random stuff in the game, I was gifted a "chest full of gold" for working (it was just a chest, they straight up stole my gold lol). The AI also does some interesting things at points because I mentioned a bet about drinking 5 things of mead and someone randomly gave me 5 things of mead despite no one saying they would do it and the conversation having moved on in their own prompts. 

Think the saddest thing is how much the AI fights me when I want it to randomly select a winner in a card game I think I tried two tell it to pick at random twice and it just looped back to asking who won and then on attempt 3 it just made me the winner.

 Otherwise this is quite entertaining and well worth 8$.

This…. This game is a damn rabbit hole in a time sink. I’m struggling to learn how to make money as I’m collecting ooze off of monsters that are destroying the clothes off my back before I can earn money to replace them.  The merchant in town won’t buy anything the enemies drop but he will ask me about creating a business plan for shipping these products to a distant city, one that I cannot be sure is actually somewhere in the game or if it exists as a place in lore only. Now I’m starving and I can’t sleep until I eat something but all the shops are closed, but I enter the tavern and with what little money I have I can buy booze to heal just enough hunger to last until morning. Then I go tell my woes to the Baker without having the money to buy food and the little guy just GIVES me enough food to last the day in the middle of our conversation. 

I’ve been sinking hours into this thing because each person you cross paths with is a conversation you write-in yourself, and almost half of those conversations are explaining the days events to a new person. Then they suggest a new thing for you to try or a place to look for the herbs you’ve been searching for and now the next two hours of your gameplay are decided. But you can’t wander off into the woods without dropping your inventory first, but the shed you live in doesn’t have storage for shit and the floor is really cluttered. 

I can’t contain what I’ve experienced so far in anything short of a novel, but what I really wanted to say before I left was. Hayden’s character keeps thinking things in a format of <thoughts> Blahblahblah </thoughts>. And I figure that is a bug, no problem. But now I had the idea of my character being able to hear these thoughts ever since an encounter with sanity attacking slimes and some experiments at the alchemist with a Strange Plant I found and basically I’m convincing my own character and the alchemist in town that I can specifically overhear one characters thoughts and that we can’t tell him until we’re sure what I’m experiencing is real and that we have to tell him because he deserves to know I’ve accidentally invaded his privacy with this. 

This game is so much experimenting to learn things the hard way. The long way. With so much upkeep to make your days productive. And I’m here roleplaying with an Ai to be responsible with my mind reading abilities while the Ai itself can forget that the character I’m talking to has been following my character around town all day while asking me for the fourth time so far why I look so tired and if my slime hunting has been fruitful. 

And I’m writing this while torn about looking into ways to get a proper, fully custom character into the files so I can put this time and effort into a more perfect playthrough with a proper self-insert fursona. 

It’s. A. Lot. But the best $8 I’ve spent in years. And I don’t even know if that means it’s a good recommendation. 

[DEV] Is there any chance for some erotic animations with NPCs in the future? And most importantly, if a character undresses, they should also be shown naked during conversation, and NPCs should appropriately react to nudity.

Hello! Great game n' all, I just wanted to leave a couple suggestions... and also two 'oh please dev please!' begs. Because what is any communication to the dev if not a plea for what I want.

For a one suggestion... I notice that NPC's keep asking me 'where are you from' and 'what brings you to Silverpine', or something in that vein; it happens every time an NPC decides to try and ask unprompted about my character to fill conversation. It is my total conspiracy that you have in some way weighted the LLM with a 'when you meet the player try and ask them where they're from and what brings them here' lore prompt somewhere. Dear god please get rid of this if it exists or fix it, and if it doesn't exist add a negative bias to this question or some check... however you want to do it to make it stop. This is like.. 4% annoying so I'm LITERALLY dying.

An easier suggestion would be to add scroll wheel support to dialogue boxes, specifically when an NPC gives a response larger than one text box. I know this is extremely minor but as one of the core elements is talking to NPC's I think, I know it would go a long way.

And a last suggestion...  more of a criticism... Sorry. This is a long and kind of philosophical one that touches on some fundamental ideologies of game design. You've been warned. By definition I would consider this game an 'immersive sim' and a 'sandbox game' so please consider this criticism through the lens of someone playing an a-typical game in those genre. And now to put it horribly bluntly I find the game unintuitive. To give an example; when I went to cut down a tree with an axe I was only given a sapling and no wood, upon further investigation it appears you ONLY get saplings from cutting down trees, my intuition that I can get logs from a tree is shattered, nor is it subverted in a meaningful way. As a result I find the axe a sort of useless item because it failed to work as expected nor does it have a subversive use. There are many other examples like this, like how I don't find it intuitive that the shop keeper Aldric won't buy most items despite being a merchant. Like how its unintuitive that, from what i can tell, the intended way to get an NPC to stop following you is to talk to them again and then just walk away. Now I also have basic reasoning, I can with confidence guess as to why things are the way they are, axes are meant to move trees not collect wood, Aldric only peddles in tools and equipment to not make the other vendors redundant, and talking to an NPC twice to have them stop following you is really the only option you have and the player is just expected to kind of pick up on it. Maybe I'm wrong and those where not the reason but the point I want to make is that this though needs to be exercised from your end to the extent of thinking about what the average player might do/think. WHY on this green earth is this important? I'd say because it breaks immersion, not the immersion of my character or of the game world but a more... fundamental one, the immersion that I am playing a game, because for a brief moment as a player its like hitting a roadblock and I'm reminded just how limited I am. Very subjective but, again, I believe this is more so a fundamental view on how one should approach the construction of a game, the absolute idea that upon adding an item or feature to a game that one must ask themselves "how will a player use/interact with this" and If you think the answer does not align with your intended use case then attempt to remedy, clarify, or subvert within reason. Sorry that was long winded. Even if not for this, I hope you keep this in mind.

After all that I'm still obligated to beg for content/features.

It would be. Really. REALLY. Cool. If... You exposed more of games files for editing before mixin such as: 1. Character/world text that will be fed to the LLM. and 2. Character sprites in the same vein as how the custom character is handled.

After all this I'd like to say that I really do like most of what you've made. And I say all this because I care, the concept of engoodening is a thing.

I know the limitations of LLM's, how information needs to be summarized and compressed to be stored, how information is often lost in the process, and how this affects the user experience. But all that aside when it works it works. I had Gareth get giddy at explaining the brewing process of ale and when I purposefully made a mistake he picked up on it and was excited when I did things right and remembered what he had said. Once Darian said offhandedly that his watch tower isn't actually his residence despite sleeping there and technically he is roommates with Hayden and somehow despite that clearly not being the case it has become cannon to my save. When I first met Orina she was very dismissive of me, I immediately told her that she didn't have to talk to me if she didn't want t, she replied that she just doesn't like small talk and now if I'm ever with a group talking with her in it I'm the only one she'll speak to and she only speaks directly with zero filler chatter. My favourite interaction was when Hayden refused to go to his shop so I was stuck in early morning starving, probably a bug, but instead of reloading I went to Rosaly and basically begged her to cook a meal which she provided, I gave her 8g and she said it was unnecessary but accepted it if it meant I though that I wasn't abusing her kindness. 

I had my clothes break after punting slimes in the woods. Aldric didn't have any to sell so I had to run around naked for days. During this time I expanded the shed I bought from Gareth, he sold it to me dirt cheep since my character helps him run the inn. He asked to see the renovation and so I took him over, he gave me a chair to commemorate and I put it down in the wrong spot, when I went to pick it up I accidentally stripped the flooring out instead. He... somehow detected the wood and nails now on the ground under the chair and commented that I have a hole in the floor and he felt obligated to tell me. He then proceeded to say something along the lines of 'listen kid, you're running around naked and you live in a shed with big holes in the floor, just move into the inn until you get yourself steady' and I deadpanned In real life so so very hard. Immaculate.

Hello, beforehand I want to say this is an awesome game!. The game runs smoothly with the generation by server.

I am having trouble setting up the local GPU generation, it mentions that KoboldCPP can't be loaded. Is there a tutorial to set this up?

Edit*: I manage to launch the kobold.exe by downloading the koboldcpp-oldpc.exe, the one that the game downloads never starts or anything.

Edit 2: manage to get the latest koboldcpp fromgithub working and I just changed the seal to make it work. If anyone needs help on how to get work reply to this message and I'll happily past the step by step tutorial :)

this was really easy to set up but I have concerns of longevity of this game. only your server and three local models are supported. to make sure this can be played in future could you add and option to connect to local server? players could then have always a way to play this and it shouldn't be too difficult. just add a list of compatible models and warning that other models may produce undesirable effects.

I'm trying to buy the shed from Gareth, but he gave me a table named "key", when I told him it didn't he work then he gave me a column looking thing called "shed key" wtf?

Will character relationships have any impact? I'm talking about sleeping in the same bed or any erotic intricacies, not just textual ones?

Is there a way to edit saves or something? I don't feel like grinding gold

Edit: Nvm, found out you can get Rosalyn to give you gold for having sex with her

Could you add an option to sleep for a certain number of hours in addition to the current "sleep until rested" and "sleep until morning"? I keep running into issues with this.

I played only demo, but it's already been very good. I definetly have high hopes for this game, and hope it will not gonna be abandoned how it often is. I'm gonna wait a few pathces for this game and then i certanly gonna buy it. 

By the way, i'm new to itch and if i'm gonna buy it, will i get access to all future versions? 

Good luck, i hope it's gonna be only better in the future :)

Interesting game, but I have a few questions. 

1. Does the paid version have a time limit? 

2. Are there erotic animations, or is it all text-based? 

3. And do I receive an email with the new version when I update, or do I also have to pay for it?

Hey! I tried your game and I’m really having a great time with it. The thing that impressed me the most is, of course, the AI. It might not be perfect, but I’ve honestly never played anything like this before. The role-playing aspect is truly satisfying.

As for the gameplay itself, it’s not quite as impressive, mainly because the player has to figure everything out on their own. The game doesn’t explain much. For example, I still don’t know how my character can become stronger. Is there some kind of guide available?

I also heard you’re working on your next project. Will it be something similar? Personally, I’d love to play a better and more expanded version of your game.

Are the dungeon's meant to be "cleared" in linear order? I tried to get inside the mountain castle, but it was locked, so I kind of assume that's the case. If so, is the order Cave>Castle>Temple?

Yeah, okay. My NVIDIA 5080 is currently using all 16 GB of its vram when I try to host an LLM locally. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it's painfully slow and borderline unplayable because dialogues usually take 5+ minutes to generate per response

Buaaah!!! I would really like to see more stuff in this game! Would two or three more NPCs be too much to ask for?! Sniff! >.<'

The game looks great, and the premise is nice. But has a long way to be better.
1. The interface of character selection only has disadvantages for certain characters, but not advantages.
2. You can only choose characters instead of the species. Basically, I want to control a Kobold, but the male Kobold is scrolling to the right instead of having a sex selection.
3. I start without a guide or tutorial. Basically, I am at a village with instructions about how to move and interact. But I don't know how to plant, sell, my equipment, my stats, craft, cooking, and I seem to not have a way to craft something that isn't walls, a fire pit, or doors.
4. Limited amount of resources: Cut down a tree and obtained nothing, cut down another and obtained a sapling.
5. Time passes when speaking. AI always wants to continue talking, so it could be inconvenient.
6. Hunger and thirst bar are down instead of up. Ate a sweet roll thinking I was hungry.

It would be nice if something like OpenRouter could be plugged in. I don't have a great GPU, but I wouldn't mind using my OR credits with this.

talking to the npcs, seperately: sequence contains no matching element? whats the deal with this and how do i fix it

Where do you place custom characters, and do they need to be inside of a folder?

Of course my 1st time ever using one of these AI chat things. Is in a furry game. But holy crap, the whole real-time responses were surreal. So this is what people have been talking about with this stuff. I suddenly feel 30 years older and out of touch. 

witch  version was better guys?

Can you make building less time consuming? or at the very least less grindy? making money in game is hard as is even with the relaxed mode.

Hi, I would like to ask if it is possible to use more than three hundreds characters in the description of my character as I always have the warning when I start the game and it ignore a whole lot of the description, or do I need to put it somewhere else ? 

Sorry if you already have answered this question 

I encountered such a problem, when I sell something through the dialogue window, the AI agrees and gives me renamed things instead of money, I sold slime to Rosalyn through the dialogue, she gave me 5 coins not in money, but in the same slime but renamed as 5 coins, are there any ideas about this?<img src="https://img.itch.zone/aW1nLzIyNjQ2OTMzLnBuZw==/original/BfDQI%2B.png">

Anyone know the file pathway to access the default characters? I wanted to grab the already existing models and descriptors and use them for custom characters. I am not savvy enough to make all that myself so I figured I could tweak what was already there... I just cannot find the files.